ERP - end to end - SAP
ERP
SAP ( Systems Applications and Products ) is basically an ERP.* :
What is ERP ?
Ans: ERP is an acronym for "Enreprise Resource Planning".an ERP attempts to integrate all departments and functions across a company onto a single computer system that can serve all those different department's particular needs. E :
Why do Enterpises(Companies) Fix ERP in their Organisations ?There r 5 major reasons Y companies undertake ERP.
(1) Integrate financial Information
(2) Integrate Customer Order Information
(3) Standardize and speed up manufacturing processes
(4) Reduce inventory
(5) Standardize HR information.
(1) Integrate financial Information : As the CEO tries 2 understand D copmany's overall performance,he may find many different versions of the truth .Finance has it's own set of revenue numbers,sales has another version and the different business units may each have their own versions of how much they contributed 2 revenues. ERP creates a single version of D truth that cannot be questioned because everyone is using D same system.
(2) Integrate Customer order information : ERP system can bcome D place where D customer order lives from D time a customer service representative receives it unitll D loading dock ships D merchandise & finance sends an invoice.By having this info in one software system,companies can keep track of orders more easily and coordinate maufacturing,inventory and shiipping among many different locations @ same time.
(3) Standardize and speed up manufacturing processes : Manufacturing companies -especially those with appetite 4r mergers & aquisitions often find that multiple business units across D copmany make D same widget using different methods & computer systems. ERP systems come with standard methods 4r automating some of D steps of steps of a manufacturing process. Standardize those processes & using a single,integrated computer system can save time,increase productivity & reduce head count.
(4) Reduce inventory: ERP helps D manufacturing process flow more smoothly & it improves visibility of D order fulfillment proces inside D company.That can lead 2 reduced inventories of D stuff used 2 make products & it can help users better plan deliveries 2 customers,reducing D finished good inventory @ D warehouse & shipping docs
(5) Standardize HR information - especially in companies with mulitiple busines units, HR may not have a unified,simple method for tracking employees time & communicating with them abt benefits and services.ERP can fix that.In D race 2 fix these problems ,companies often lose sigt of D ERP packages r nothing more than generic representatives of the eays a typical copmany does business, While most of packages r exhaustively comprehensive ,each industry has its own qurks that amke it unique. Most of the ERP systems r designed 2 be used by discrete manufacturing companies . The ERP programs r modified according 2 D needs of each industry which install them.
SAP ( Systems Applications and Products ) is basically an ERP.* :
What is ERP ?
Ans: ERP is an acronym for "Enreprise Resource Planning".an ERP attempts to integrate all departments and functions across a company onto a single computer system that can serve all those different department's particular needs. E :
Why do Enterpises(Companies) Fix ERP in their Organisations ?
There r 5 major reasons Y companies undertake ERP.
(1) Integrate financial Information
(2) Integrate Customer Order Information
(3) Standardize and speed up manufacturing processes
(4) Reduce inventory
(5) Standardize HR information.
(1) Integrate financial Information : As the CEO tries 2 understand D copmany's overall performance,he may find many different versions of the truth .Finance has it's own set of revenue numbers,sales has another version and the different business units may each have their own versions of how much they contributed 2 revenues. ERP creates a single version of D truth that cannot be questioned because everyone is using D same system.
(2) Integrate Customer order information : ERP system can bcome D place where D customer order lives from D time a customer service representative receives it unitll D loading dock ships D merchandise & finance sends an invoice.By having this info in one software system,companies can keep track of orders more easily and coordinate maufacturing,inventory and shiipping among many different locations @ same time.
(3) Standardize and speed up manufacturing processes : Manufacturing companies -especially those with appetite 4r mergers & aquisitions often find that multiple business units across D copmany make D same widget using different methods & computer systems. ERP systems come with standard methods 4r automating some of D steps of steps of a manufacturing process. Standardize those processes & using a single,integrated computer system can save time,increase productivity & reduce head count.
(4) Reduce inventory: ERP helps D manufacturing process flow more smoothly & it improves visibility of D order fulfillment proces inside D company.That can lead 2 reduced inventories of D stuff used 2 make products & it can help users better plan deliveries 2 customers,reducing D finished good inventory @ D warehouse & shipping docs
(5) Standardize HR information - especially in companies with mulitiple busines units, HR may not have a unified,simple method for tracking employees time & communicating with them abt benefits and services.ERP can fix that.In D race 2 fix these problems ,companies often lose sigt of D ERP packages r nothing more than generic representatives of the eays a typical copmany does business, While most of packages r exhaustively comprehensive ,each industry has its own qurks that amke it unique. Most of the ERP systems r designed 2 be used by discrete manufacturing companies . The ERP programs r modified according 2 D needs of each industry which install them.
Need Of An ERP: ERP Is used for planning our reources to get maximum profits
with minimum Efforts.
How to Provide ERP Solutions ?
(1) Business Process Analysis
(2) Document Analysis
(3) Client Sign Off
(4) GAP Realization
(5) Realization
(6) Testing
(7) Q.A. ( Quality Analysis )
(8) Go- live
(9) End User Training
(10) Post Production Support.
HISTORY OF SAP.Founded in 1972,SAP is the recognised leader in providing collabrative business solutions for all types of industries and for every major market. Headquartered in Willdorf,Germnay,SAP is the world's largest inter-enterprise software company,and the world's third largest independent software supplier overall. SAP employs over 28,900 people in more than 50 countries SAP profesionals are dedicated to providing high-level customer support and sevices.
1972 - Five former IBM employees
(1) Dietmer Hopp
(2) Hans-Werner
(3) Hasso Plattner
(4) klaus Tschira
(5) Claus Wellenreuther
Launch a company called SAP - Systems Analysis and Program Development.later known as SAP - Systems Applications and Products.1973 - R/1 system is created
R stands for Real Time
1 stands for one tier.
1980 - SAP MOVES TO Max-Planck-Strasse in an industrial park in Walldorf,near
1981 . SAP R/2 is widely accpeted.R stands for Real time2 stands for two tier.
1986 -SAP moves outside
1988 - SAP GmbH becomes SAP AG.Nov 4 ,1.2 million shares are listed on Frankfurt and
1992 - SAP R/3 is unleashed in market.
1996 - 1,089 new SAP R/3 customers have been won.
1997 - SAP celebrates it's 25th anniversary and now employs around 12,900 people.
1998 - SAP stocks now trades on New York Stock Exchange (NYSE).
1999 - In May Co-Founder,Co-Chairman and CEO Hassao Plattner announces the mySAP.com stratergy.
2000 -More than 10 million users work with SAP solutions.There are now 36,000 installations worldwide,1,000 partners,22 industry business solutions and 13,500 customers in 120 countries.SAP becomes world's third largest independent software vendor.
2002 - With sales of U.S.$7.8 billion and 29,000 employees,SAP is one of the leading vendors of e-business solutions.2003 - SAP Netwaver is introduced
HISTORY OF SAP.
Founded in 1972,SAP is the recognised leader in providing collabrative business solutions for all types of industries and for every major market. Headquartered in Willdorf,Germnay,SAP is the world's largest inter-enterprise software company,and the world's third largest independent software supplier overall. SAP employs over 28,900 people in more than 50 countries SAP profesionals are dedicated to providing high-level customer support and sevices.
1972 - Five former IBM employees (1) Dietmer Hopp
(2) Hans-Werner
(3) Hasso Plattner
(4) klaus Tschira
(5) Claus Wellenreuther
Launch a company called
SAP - Systems Analysis and Program Development.later known as
SAP - Systems Applications and Products.
1973 - R/1 system is created
R stands for Real Time
1 stands for one tier.
1980 - SAP MOVES TO Max-Planck-Strasse in an industrial
park in Walldorf,near
1981 - SAP R/2 is widely accpeted.
R stands for Real time
2 stands for two tier.
1986 - SAP moves outside
1988 - SAP GmbH becomes SAP AG.Nov 4 ,1.2 million shares are listed on Frankfurt and
1992 - SAP R/3 is unleashed in market.
1996 - 1,089 new SAP R/3 customers have been won.
1997 - SAP celebrates it's 25th anniversary and now employs around 12,900 people.
1998 - SAP stocks now trades on New York Stock Exchange (NYSE).
1999 - In May Co-Founder,Co-Chairman and CEO Hassao Plattner announces the mySAP.com stratergy.
2000 - More than 10 million users work with SAP solutions.There are now 36,000 installation
SAP-Introduction
SAP(Systems applications and products) is an ERP(Enterprise Resource Planning) package,where in the functions of enterprise are planned and performed by the software,I am into ABAP(Advanced Busines Application Programming) module,
We program (Change the standard code of SAP),or (Write a new code) According to requirments of Functional People.Functional people will say us their requirements,For example for creating pay rolls of employees,in standard SAP their is no VAT tax deduction,so we modify the standard code.
This(ABAP) is the only module through which we can write the code(progamme),
there are 12 functional modules,PP- Production planning
MM -Material Management
SD -Sales and distribution
FI -Financial Accounting
CO -Controlling
AM -Fixed Assest Management
PS -Project system
WF -Work force
IS -Industry Solutions
HR -Human resources
PM -Plant Maintainance
QM -Quality Management
The above modules are the basic modules,we will talk about latest modules in near future.
SAP is a company and a package as well,I mean both have the same name.
SAP AG (the company deals with both ERP & CRM),what we are talking in our grp is SAP software which is a kind of ERP.
CRM is not an ERP. CLEAR ?
C - Customer
R - Relation-ship
M - Management
E - Enterprise
R - Resources and
P - Products.
SAP AG has both the softwares,if it's clear fine,or else i'll try to explain pictorially.
Vikram plz brief about wd each module deals with ?
Hi sadhana,
Nice question,I'll soon be explaining about each and every Module.
Let us move step by step.
ABAP is the only programming language 2 SAP,The one who is working with ABAP is called technical consultant.They write the coding(programs).
All others are called Functional consultants.
Ex: Let us consider a vehicle.Comparing a vehicle with SAP.
Now (1) A Functinal Consultant is like a Driver.
(2) A Technical Consultant(ABAPer) is like Mechanic.
(3) SAP AG is like The one who manufacture vehcile
Regarding the Role of Functional Consultant ,Vist the latest forum.
Introduction to SAP Continued....
SAP is the fourth largest software company in the world. It ranks after Microsoft,IBM and Oracle in terms of market capitalization. SAP is the largest Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) solution software provider.SAP's products focus on ERP, which it helped to pioneer. The company's main product is SAP R/3;the "R" stands for real time data processing and the number 3 relates to a three-tier application architecture: database, application server and client SAPgui.Other major product offerings include
(1).Advanced Planner and Optimizer (APO),
(2).Business Information Warehouse(BW),
(3).Customer Relationship Management(CRM),
(4).Supplier Relationship Management(SRM),
(5).Human Resource Management Systems(HRMS),
(6).Product Lifecycle Management(PLM),
(7).Exchange Infrastructure(XI) and
(8).Knowledge Warehouse(KW).
Reportedly, there are over
91,500 SAP installations at more than
28,000 companies. SAP products are used by over
12 million people in more than
120 countries."
so then you mean to say that SAP has:-
1)Technical module (i.e.,ABAP)
2)Functional module (which has 12 modules)
Is my interpretation correct?
Reply to pranav
Ur Interpretation is correct to a certain extent.
What I mean is that these Functional modules keep increasing and New versions of ABAP keep comming.got it ? So.If we understand basics then that accesories can be easily understood. Hope u got it.
Regards,
Vikram
Functional Modules-Description
Material Management covers the functionality required to (1) purchase goods and services,(2) manage inventory, and (3) inspect incoming materials.
The Purchasing function includes creation of requisitions, requisition approval, purchase order generation, and receipt of goods and services. Inventory Management includes issuing and transferring inventory, inventory restocking, and the inventory count and adjustment processes.
SAP-SD
HI, Vikram,
I need some info on SAP-SD Module.
1.What are the different parts of SAP-SD module? Which are the best for Consulting?
2.Is it applicable only for Retail or it can be used for Machinery manufacturers as well?
3. Is certification optional? What are its benefits? Does ABAP have Certification?
Regards,
Milind.
Hi Milind,I'll be explainging abt S.D. in detail,hopefully tommorrow night,thought 2 tell it today but just now i came home,9:00 pm and again moving out,hopefully I will write abt it tomm.
From the paste with wich u brush
U don't need certification for getting a job,Only experience counts.Even I myself don't have certification !!!!!!!!!!,so coool.
SAP R/3
Thrugh out our interaction I use two words,SAP R/3 and SAP AG.U need to be absolutely crystal clear abt these two and their Definitions.
SAP R/3 Means the software package & R/3 means Real time ,3 tier Technology.
SAP AG Means the Company where AG(german) means limited in english.
Query About SAP R/3 - SD Module
Hi
Vikram,
First of all heartly thanks to you for your endeavors to create an open oppurnity to discuss our problems in SAP.
I am a B.Com Graduate & presently in pursuance of my final year of Master of Marketing Management (through distance learning education) in. Apart from this I am experienced in working with a Manufacturing MNC as an end user of SAP R/3 – SD Module. Currently I am working with a leading Stock Broking firmq as a Compliance Officer. My total work experience is of 1.5 years.
I wish to pursue SAP – R/3 – Sales & Distribution Module & want to know whether it will help me in securing a job as a SAP Consultant, since I want to switch my line.. I come to know that in securing a successful job after completion of the course one needs to have domain experience in Marketing, which I really don't have.
I would be grateful to you if I get a proper guidance from your end .
Role of a functional consultant:
Role of a SAP Functional Consultant
For those who wished to know the role of a functinal consultant. Below is one view:
A functional consultant evaluates the demands in talking with the customer's representatives, transforms the essence into an abstract and algorithmic business model. Hence, he identifies the use cases and transforms them into logical and technical views.
Then the main task starts: customizing the respective business area and making sure the system reacts in the manner according to the constraints of the requested use case.
The consultant documents the settings and prepares proper guidelines that allow other consultants to do further changes or repairs with due efforts.
The consultant takes care that proper training is given to the users and that the system is usable, performing appropriately and the business flow is complete and correct.
During go live he assists the technical staff by testing the behaviour of the system.
After go live he guarantees that the procedures remain usable and consistent in real live situation and proposes enhancements.
The main duty of a consultant is to transfer external know-how to the client. It is not manpower that counts but intelligence, understanding of processes, a feeling for defects and general a common sense.
Role of a Functional Consultant in an End To End Implementation
When you talk about the role of a Functional consultant in an end to end implementation, I think it won't be possible for me or anybody to define everything but I will try to summarize it:
Role of Functional Consultant.
1. Functional consultant is expected to generate knowledge about the current business process, design current business flows, study current business processes and its complication, in all we can say getting through with current business setup. Flow diagrams and DFD are prepared, most of the time in Vision format, all this forms the part of AS IS document.
2. Everything configured has to be documented as per their categories in the form of predefined templates, these have to be then approved by the team leads or who ever the consultant is reporting to.
3. Mapping and GAP analysis is done for each module, I have seen people defining integration after mapping, gap analysis and configuration is done, but as per my experience in implementation, it is a simultaneous process.
4. Before starting configuring future business processes in SAP, the DFD/ERD are prepared, this documentation is called TO BE, which can be also siad as the result of mapping and gap analysis.
5. Sometimes Functional consultants are also expected to prepare test scripts for testing the configured scenarios.
6. End user manual and user training is also expected from F.Consultants.
The project normally starts off with a Kick off meeting in which the team size, team members, reporting system, responsibilities, duties, methodlogy, dates and schedules, working hours which have been predicided are formally defined.
ASAP, it won't be possible for me to explain it here, but all I can tell you about it is that it is SAP standard implementation methodology, which SAP prescribes but is not mandatory for any company to follow, such as IBM follow some blue Methodlogy, some companies follow typical SDLC steps, ASAP stands for Accerlated SAP, you can find all the steps on SAP site, through google, reading it from there won't give you a great knowledge about ASAP but will obviously get you to know the definitions of various term.
What is the Difference between Consultant & End users?
SAP consultant role is to build the system, changes & modification/updation in currently installed SAP system for the end users.
SAP End user only use the SAP system just to fetch some info, or to create new thing. So a end user is just using the final product which it is meant for and consultnat design the product/updation and modification.
Sales and Distribution
Sales and Distribution helps to optimize all the tasks and activities carried out in sales, delivery and billing. Key elements are; pre-sales support, inquiry processing, quotation processing, sales order processing, delivery processing, billing and sales information system.
The sales logistics business process scenario in R/3 allows users to manage sales and distribution activities in an effective manner. The business processes include scenarios for sales, shipping, billing, sales support, and sales information. With real time, on line access to sales information, such tasks as order entry, delivery, and billing are all streamlined. In addition, sales and distribution can be integrated with procurement and production planning, improving turnaround time up and down the value chain. The sales function in R/3 utilizes a configurator to select configured products as well as a "conditions" program to manage complex pricing scenarios. The sales order process sends requirements to manufacturing. The R/3 system uses a technology, called Application Linking and Enabling (ALE), to implement distributed solutions such as decentralized shipping. In this approach, special types of business information documents, called Intermediate Documents or IDOCs, are automatically transmitted between communicating systems. This database is used by R/3 to automatically generate the IDOCs used in communicating between the host and remote systems. In the recent years, many of SAP's customers have found that the integration of sales and distribution applications in R/3's logistics chain has improved the performance of their companies.
Modules in R/3
Many people have asked me abt the prior Knowldge required to go fora particular
Module,Here r the fields in which U need to be perfect to Have a better understanding of the module in SAP.
A brief description of FM's ,what U'll need to learn ?
Asset Management(AM) :
* Purchase
*
* Depreciation
* Tracking
Controlling (CD) :
* Cost elements
* Cost centres
* Profit Centres
* Internal Orders
* Activity based costing
* Product Costing
Cross Applications(CA).
* Work Flow (WF)
* Business Inforamtion Ware house (BW)
* Office
* Industry Solutions
* Work place
* New Dimension products
Financial Accounting(FI). :
* General Ledger
* Book close
* Tax
* Accounts receivable
* Accounts Payable
* consolidation
* Spcial Ledger
Project systems (PS) :
* Plant shut downs
* Make to order
* Third-party billing
* Human resouces
Plant Maintance (PM) :
* Labour
* down time & outages
Material
Matearial Management(MM) :
* Requsitions
* Purchase Orders
* Accounts Payable
* Goods reciept
* Inventory Management
* B
Sales and Distribution (SD):
* From order to delivery
* Shop Floor
* Sales orders
* Pricing
* Picking
* Shipping
* Packing
Quality Management (QM):
* Planning
* Inspections
* Executions
* Certificates
Prodution planning (PP):
* Capacity Planning
* Master production scheduling
* RFQ
Phases in ABAP Programming
The following R D diff phases of ABAP programming.
Phase 1 : Project Preperation.
Phase 2 : Business Blueprint.
Phase 3 : Realization.
Phase 4 : Final Preperation.
Phase 5 : Go live and Support.
Realization is the most important phase where a ABAPer enters,All the beginers(ABAP) enter into SAP world in this phase.
Phase 1 : Project Preperation : In this phase of the ASAP Roadmap,desicion makers define clear project objectives and an efficient decision-making process. A project charter is issued,an implemetation stratergy is outlined and the project team as well as its working environment r established.
The first step is for the project managers(not for ABAPers) to set up the implementation project(s).They draw up a road draft of the project,appoint the project team and hold a kickoff meeting.The kickoff meeting is critical, since at this time the project team and process owners become aware of the project charter and objectives and are allocated their responsibilities,lasting thriughout the project.
Phase 2 : Business Blueprint
In this phase,The scope of R/3 is defined(to solve the task) the documentation of R/3 implementation is done.The final document prepared is called "Business Blueprint".This is done by project team under the project manager.Here the exact step by step procedure in which the task has 2 be carried out is defined.
The Business Blue print serves as the conceptual master plan & is assembled into a detailed written document.This document summarizes and documents business requirements in detail and serves as the basis for organisation,configuration and if necessary,development activities.
The business Process Master List (BPML) is the primary activity-tracking & control mechanism used by project management team during the realization phase. The BPML is first created at the end of the Business Blue print phase from the Q&Adb in order to create the Baseline Scope Document and ten used during the next phase for monitoring and controlling the R/3 configuration and testing activities.
The baseline scope is generated via the Q&Adb and the Business Process Master List.The amount to be included in this scope will vary based on each individual project implementation.As a guideline,the base line scope shld target 2 address rougly 80% of TBR (total Business requirements),Before passing B.P. 2 next phase a quality check is done.
Phase 3 : Realisation
Realization:This is the moost important phase,because,this is where maximm number of Techincal people will be at work.Especially people having experience less than 4-5 yrs.
The purpose of Phase 3 is to configure the R/3 System,in ordr 2 have an integrated and documented solution that fulfills
In this phase,configuration of the system is carried out in 2 steps:
(1)Baseline and
(2)Final Configuration.
(1)Base line
The Base line Configuration is designed 2 configure abt 80% of ur clint's daily business transactions & all of the master data,& organize structur.The remaining configuration is done in process-oriented cycles.The Businessss Blue print is used as D guide 4r D system config,done using D mplementation guide.which will be describd in detail in tihs forum.
After this process,data transfer pograms as wella s interfcaceds ,ned 2 be tested.
Phase 4 : Final Preperation
The purpose of this phase,as name suggests, is 2 complete the final preperation of the R/3 systm 4r going live.This includes testing, user training, system managment & cutover activities,2 finalize ur radiness 2 go live.This final preperation phse also serves 2 resolve all crucial open issues. On successful completion of this phase, U r ready 2 run the business in
In this phase,the end users go thru comprehensive training.
Phase 5 : Go Live and support
Now U r ready to go live with
* The onlin Sevrvices System (OSS)
* REMOTE Consulting
* EarlyWatch Services.
In this phase the implementation project is concerned with aupporting & optimizing D operative R/3 system,both D technical infrastructure & load distribution as well as D business process.
Description of Development Environment
Development Class :A Development Class is anything created by a developer.
The Development Objects are
(1). Programs.
(2). Screens
(3). Tables
(4). Views
(5). Structures
(6). Data Models
(7). Messages
(8). Includes & so on.........
The R/3 system contains tools for creating testing developent objects.These tools are located in the R/3 Development Work Bench. To access any development tool, U go 2 the workbench.(workbench ????)
The work bench contains tools for creating and testing development objects.These tools r used to create :
(A). The ABAP/4 program editor where U cAN create & modify ABAP/4 source code & other program components.
(B). The DATA Dictionary where u cna create tables,structures & views.
(C). The Data modeler where U can documnet the realtionships betn tables
(D). The Function library where U can documnet the relationships betn tables.
(E). The screen & menu painters where U can create a user interface 4r
Testing and search tools in ABAP.
The following testing and search tools are also available:
* ST05 - SQL trace :
Tracking the database calls form the system transaction and programs.
* SE38 - Abap Debugger,
we can debug wiht in SE38,where we write program.
* SE30 - Run time Analysis:
Analyzing the system calls.
Resume Preperation
Many of us ignore the fact that,Resume preperation is one of the most important and cruial step for our career.Even if we r good @ suject,If our resume is not well prepared and well presented,U may not get,becoz for getting a call and fixin appointment for interview,entirly depends on our resume.DEPENDS ONLY ON OUR RESUME. The selection of resume is importcant for getting calls.
I have seen that many r charging to prepare a professional resume and we too end up in a confusion.
So,here I ahve decided to give the steps: VERY IMPORTANT STEPS.
If U follow this steps,U r sure to get a call and even job.ALL THE BEST.
Tips for Resume Preperation
Tip 1 - Use Titles or Headings That Match The Jobs You WantWith employers receiving hundreds of resumes you must make sure that your resume hooks an employer's attention within a 5-second glance. A great way to do this is to use job titles and skill headings that relate to and match the jobs you want.
Before Resume:I U want a job on SAP-HR,then It should be clearly on the heading,stating ur experience, like SAP-HR with 2 years Experience.Then people who r looking ofr 2 yrs guys will open ur resume.If U keep ur title as SAP-job,u'll never get a call,becoz no one will open ur resume.
make it sue that U keep some experience,from some XYZ company,who r genunely aorking on SAP.but fo this U need 2 be perfect and confident abt subject or else u'll face problems.
Tip 2
Tip 2 - Use Design That Grabs Attention of Employers make snap judgments when glancing at
Tip 3 - Create Content That Sells
Resume design should get attention but it's really the content of your resume, the descriptions you include of your skills and abilities, that determine how many interviews you generate--as well as the level of salary offers you receive. Compare the before and after statements :
Before Resume:U need to specify only 3 things.
Name : XXXXXXX.
Email-id : @@@@@@@@
Contact No : 12345678.
After Resume: Do not keep any personal Details If U r experienced Guy,Or if u r projecting ur self as a experinced one,Never write Ur personal details in the last,nor write that " I promise that ...."
Simple reason is that if U r experienced U will not promise any one anything.